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Should Smoking at Home Be Illegal?

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March 20, 2009 by Kathy McManus

Should Smoking at Home Be Illegal?

Two new legal commandments have been delivered to the Silicon Valley town of Belmont, California: 

Thou shalt not smoke in thy apartment
Thou shalt inform authorities of anyone who does smoke in an apartment

Belmont is home to America’s most restrictive secondhand smoking law, which now makes it illegal to light up in an apartment or condo that shares a wall, ceiling, or floor with another unit. Violators face a $100 fine from the city, as well as eviction if smoking violates their lease agreement. 

Additionally, the new law makes citizens responsible for enforcing it by encouraging them to call authorities and report their neighbors if they light up in any home other than a free-standing house. 

All of which has left some residents fuming--outside. 

“I’m absolutely outraged,” said one apartment dweller who now must leave home to smoke her two packs a day. “They’re telling you how to live and what to do, and they’re doing it right here in America.” 

Proponents of the new law, including the California Lung Association, see it differently. “They simply said that secondhand smoke is no less dangerous when it’s in your bedroom than in your workplace,” explained a spokesperson. 

“They” is the Belmont city council, whose members have received hate mail for passing the no-smoking-at-home ordinance, which one former council member likens to other matters of shared-living etiquette. “You can’t walk around naked in your house with the blinds open, or you’ll get arrested,” he said. “You can’t play loud music in your house and bother your neighbors. It’s illegal.” 

But even some supporters of smokers’ responsibility to so-called third parties, such as neighbors, are questioning whether Belmont should butt out. “There are good scientific and public health reasons for restricting smoking in closed public spaces,” said an expert in public health ethics. “But when such restrictions are extended to beaches, parks, sidewalks and now to the homes of smokers, the argument that third-party harms must be prevented becomes increasingly untenable.” 

Tell us what you think: Should smokers be responsible for their neighbors’ health? Should citizens be responsible for turning in at-home smokers? How far should government go in determining what you can do in the privacy of your home?


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  • March 23, 2009 by Vix

    Next??? Telling people what they can and can not read? Burning books? Oh, I know how about telling people where they have to live? Sounds a bit like history repeating it's self to me...

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    • April 15, 2009 by MK

      Brenda, you said, "as long as it does not hurt anyone else". That's exactly the problem. I have a situation almost exactly like Sally's. It is hurting us. We have to put up with stinky apartments that we pay for and should be able to live in smoke-free. It's not my problem that someone chose to indulge in a drug that spreads all over the place. Your right to swing your arm stops where my nose begins and same with your smoke.

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      • April 16, 2009 by Smoking in Belmont

        Putting up with stinky smoke is not life threatening, it's just bothersome, don't you think? Live next to people cooking with curry all day. People living in apartments put up with communal living. We tolerate lots of noises, quirks, odors, other people's messes, looks, junk on their patios, kids screaming, dogs barking, people partying, etc. In other words "LIFE". Smokers pay for their apartments too. In addition, we pay taxes that pay for a lot of stuff you probably benefit from. As one poster said, should the cigarette taxes only pay for smoker's kids? I may be offended by the way you look or how much you weigh or how much you drink or the fact that your hygiene leaves a lot to be desired. That could be offensive to me. Should you be asked to move if I complain about your personal choices before you complain about mine? What about your obesity tax proposal in New York? I heard that since the Governor will be up for election he has put that on hold. Yet, he originally intended to tax regular sodas. Diet sodas would not be taxed. And who would benefit from the obesity tax money? Do you really think that all of this "tax money" is going to go to our kids?? Didn't some guy in LA say "Can't we all just get along". Live and Let Live. Judge not that ye be judged. Don't play God. Let He Who is without sin cast the first stone. I guess that means you're perfect, eh? What's the song? 1,2,3 what are we fighting for? Whoopee, we're all gonna die! Get over it! If you don't like it move, just as I would. Right now, I'm choosing to smoke in Belmont within the perimeters of the law. However, people, the truth is not many people are obeying the ordinance.
      • August 3, 2010 by steve mccoy

        yes, my comment is that to many people worry to much about what other people are doing. thats why we are almost a comunist country now. we are lawed- to- death now. every big business and snot-nosed group have more say-so than the hard working tax payers. what would the gov. and states do if all us workers stopped paying taxes because we have no rights anymore? what is it with these people who claim they want a free country but don't want anyone else to do something they don't want to do? this supposed to be a free country and i have earned my rights to have freedoms. if i want to smoke than i will smoke , if you don't like it than go your own way but leave me alone. i spent my time in the military and have worked and payed taxes all my life . so i have earned the RIGHT TO BE FREE. what about the rest of you??? sorry but these things pee me off.

      • August 25, 2010 by spud

        ...I think both of these rights (swinging and smoking) are due extensions when somone is sticking their nose where it does not belong.

      • October 14, 2010 by E.SOVISS

        THEY STARTED WITH SMOKERS AND THEY ARE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU DRINK WHAT YOU EAT AND THEN THEY ARE COMING IN YOUR HOME YOUR CAR YOUR LIFE.THIS IS NOT A FREE U.S.A. .TAX IS A WHY TO RULE YOUR LIFE.

      • November 30, 2010 by David Sisk

        Like I always tell my guests at my home if you dont like me smoking you can go outside otherwise its not there choice to make since there a vistor to my home and not someone living with me its not there choice to make if lets put it this way if someoen came into your house and started to tall you how to decorate and where to put the funiture and what you should eat and drink, it not only like having your mother live with you but Id throw them oout the door or call the police to have them arrested and removed from the property if they didnt leave at my request, I think tellling me if I can smoke or not smoke in my own home is the very same thing, no oen has the legal right to tell me what I can do in my own home no matter if its my apartment or my house, Its just no morally and legally right, the law has made mistakes like this before and suppose they will agiain, what its boiling down to is the burecrats are jsut trying to raise the price of tobbaco so they can get more taxes and put more money in there greedy pockets like they always do.

      • December 3, 2010 by Susan

        Let us then not tolerate homosexuality, drugs, bad language, children who smell, are rude, loud, play or laugh to much because this is a offensive to others who like a quiet, normal life. I smoke as well as my husband. We pay higher taxes than the rest of you non smokers, yet we have less rights then you. You want fresh air, you can not even go outside because of all the air pollution or do you also wish to blame this on the smokers as well? If I did live in a apartment we would smoke, if you want a smoke free place then buy your own house and then you can do what ever you wish in it including making it a smoke free environment.

      • December 10, 2010 by ruth

        well go to an apartment where there is no smoking. whats the problem, and no, no one should tell anyone what they can or can not do in their own home, that will be like living in hell, don't you think? gee, this country is on it's way to hell , time to get our freedoms back. we don't smoke where we are not to, but dam, don't ever tell anyone not to in their own home! i smoke out side, and i live in a single home, but if i lived in an apartment, hey, thats their home.

      • December 10, 2010 by wanda

        I agree with the comment that smoking in Bellmont said. I don't smoke but get over it. Move or shut up! Everybody has things that they do that somebody doesn't like and I am sure that the women that is complaining about the second hand smoke in the apartments has things she does too that somebody in the apartments doesn't like. You could suggest that their are other alternatives to people who smoke such as the new electronic cigarettes that have come out. Some of my friends and family use them and they don't stink up their house or cars inside. The smoke like substance that comes out of the electronic cigarettes is water vapor and it does not even hurt the children around people who use them. Just a suggestion. Merry Christmas!! to all,

      • December 19, 2010 by R

        I do think it is going too far! I think that what people/smokers should do is start pushing for perfumes and calognes to be restricted where they may offend someone or cause someones allergies to be affected. They have also been known to trigger health issues and there are people out there that evidently don't know what a shower with water is. They bathe or shower in perfumes and calognes instead. I am a smoker and prior to becoming a smoker, i was offended by the amount of perfume or calogne someone was wearing far quicker than cigarette smoke. Lets keep the playing feild level here. After all, there are far more things that can be offensive or a health trigger other than smoke.

      • August 8, 2011 by Louanne

        Nobody has the right to give me cancer, or emphysema with their secondhand smoke. God Bless the Belmont, California Law. Hope it comes to the entire country. I hate secondhand smoke, the smell of alcoholic beverages, the smell of chittlins, the smell of marajuana. More restrictions will be an excellent thing, and very much needed. Americans are out-of-control, with their so-called "liberty and pursuit of happiness." Less noise, less smoke, less sounds good. Next we the people, need to restrict where and when people can use their cell phones. MMMMMmmmmmm.......

      • August 9, 2011 by LT

        It seems to me that a better filtering air system could be installed in apartment buildings that would remove smoke before it invades other apartments. I have seen some hospitals that have smoking huts for smokers that does a good job at filter away the smoke from cigarettes. As far outlawing smoking in the confines of ones home I believe goes to far in invasion of anyone's privacy rights. LT

      • August 11, 2011 by Chris

        A word of advise - this is still America so MOVE. Get an air purifier and QUIT whining. There are lots of things we don't like about life and dealing with other people, noise, dust, smoke, airplanes, traffic, parking, etc., etc., so get over it already.

      • August 13, 2011 by Joseph Schwartz

        I wonder if anyone ever thinks that if smoking were outlawed nationwide, 100,000 tobacco workers would be laid off, and the billions and billions in cigarette tax revenue would be lost. I guess they'd tax the air next.

      • August 16, 2011 by Daniel Boone

        You're FREE to move! You don't like the freedoms this country offers MOVE to Europe! See how you life SOCIALISM!

      • August 16, 2011 by POLLUX

        "Your right to swing your arm stops where my nose begins and same with your smoke." Sorry, you are wrong. If you're nose is within reach of my arm, you are in my space...butt out.

      • August 16, 2011 by ed

        Then buy a house. You will say the same about a smoker but they are renting like everyone else. Smoking is legal and should not be banned by an apartment complex. They are in the wrong business if they want to control people. They city and state should either drop this ridiculous law or cut out the state and local tax on the product they despise. I am not a smoker but I see the writing on the wall. You let them take one product away, harmful or not and you open the door. Fast food which for a lot of people is the cheapest way to eat.....10 dollar value meals. 3 dollar cans of soda. Keep complaining idiots and some day, you to will lose something you like that others oppose. Ridiculous. Buy a house and do better for yourself if you care that much.

      • August 19, 2011 by DK

        MK, I noticed you jumped on Brenda and said that her arm swinging stops when nose breathes it., well what if you had kids and your kids were bothering me, living next door to you, then I have a right to say where your arm swings and my sleep, and enjoyment of peace and quite comes to your kids, then think you need to move away and take those noisy kids with you., or what if you were over weight and your walking around next door, or up above me was disturbing my sleep, and yes that and the kids are a health hazard, because if I can't get sleep, then it affects my health, or another example, what if you drank a little alcohol and you becames billigerent and was up past my bed time making noise, think you should move. People stop and think what this government is doing to us. Before you just up and start agreeing with them. Our freedoms are going out the door and going out fast and we are allowing it.

      • August 24, 2011 by MOTHER OF A SON WITH ASTHMA

        dont stand for that tell the smokers to move away i dont want to die from your second hand smoke . tell your property management if possible that unless they do something youll move . take a petition around your building asking others to support each other in living ina smoke free environment and submit it to your management . there are smoke free buuildings but unfortunatly they tend to be way more expensive :( i believe all peple with children should smoke outdoors . we know asking the nicotene junkies to quit just causes more problems it makes them extreamly aggitated if we dare say anything about that little cigg has them all by the balls . i refuse to be the pawn of nicotene

      • August 26, 2011 by Alice

        I'm not a smoker, but I find this disturbing.

        What about my coworkers who wear perfume to work and those who wear it in public places ? (I am allergic to it, as are many others). Should they be prohibited? They are exposing us to allergens.

        What about the obese who cost taxpayers billions in healthcare costs? What about parents too lazy to cook who frequently feed their kids fast food? (Second-hand obesity).

        Let's form neighborhood watches and turn them all in.

        Just what we need: More laws telling us how to live.

      • August 29, 2011 by Darby

        All of these comments about freedom, and them coming to tell you what to eat, drink, decorate, are ignoring the issue that second hand cigarette smoke hurts others. You do not have the RIGHT to poison me just because you choose to poison yourself. If you have a free standing house you can smoke. They not telling you not to kill yourself. They're making it harder to kill other people with your choice of smoking. Our RIGHT to breathe air trumps your choice. Sorry if it inconviences you, but then you can move!

      • August 31, 2011 by Paula Lawson

        No It doesn't. You have the right to live where you want to and I am sure you wouldn't take an apartment without first researching and going to it to take a look. What in this world do you think gives you the right to dictate how others should live? You don't have that right. You do, however, have the right to live the way you want to. If you don't like smoke then find an apartment that either doesn't allow smoking or ask your landlord for an apartment near non smokers or buy or rent a trailer or house of your own....you have these options...why shouldn't smokers have options as well? What makes you so important that others should live to make you their number one priority? Here is a reality check for you. No one who is not your spouse is going to live their life to please you. Some will live to please God, some will live to please others, and some will live to please themselves. You are no different from anyone else and no special treatment is going to be afforded to you because you think that is the way it should be. If you think differently then perhaps another country, not built upon mans freedoms and rights, would be more suitable for you. The only person who has any responsibility to you is you, and to demand that people with a different life style bow down and concede to you and your views is not only an unattainable fantasy but a showing of how truly selfish and undeserving of the freedoms afforded to every man woman and child you are.

      • September 1, 2011 by Maggiepo

        I own a condo that has shared walls. I smoke occasionally in my unit and NOBODY is going to tell me I cannot. I pay mortgage payments, taxes and condo fees. What I do in my own home is my business, no matter what it is!

      • September 11, 2011 by Donald

        Someone actually said "Putting up with stinky smoke is not life threatening, it's just bothersome, don't you think?"

        Seriously? The whole reason that this issue is an issue at all is because smoke kills and it doesn't matter if it's the person actually smoking or not. Where have you been for the past 20 years???????

      • September 13, 2011 by auto762

        Then MOVE.

      • September 19, 2011 by AB

        If the world was perfect, folks would still find things wrong with others. You could live anywhere in the world and still not be happy with your surroundings.Sometimes you have to overlook things that others do, cause THEY are the ones that will help you the most in the long run.

      • September 30, 2011 by Rob

        WOW! Are you that aggressive towards coal power plants? How about car exhaust?

        If you answered no to either or both, you are a hypocrite that takes satisfaction in making choices for someone else.

        Do the bulk of us have to put up with idiot drivers going 10 under in the fast lane? yes Do we have to put up with self-righteous fools driving after a few drinks? yes

        So why should YOUR OPINION matter in my home? Did you not also have the choice on where you wanted to live? Sounds like you chose to live next to a smoker. Deal with it. This behavior is NOT the land of the free or home of the brave....this is nanny state and bordering on fascist rule.

      • October 3, 2011 by Trinidad1107

        Sorry about your 'stinky' apartment.... but you are missing the point completely. it is not about smells, otherwise cooking in your apartment would be banned along with burning incense. Smoking is banned in public spaces because secondhand smoke is unhealthy for non smokers, not because it stinks (which I agree it does). Please open your eyes to what is slowly happening in California, because these laws will spread throughout the US if we do not fight back.

        ps I am a nonsmoker!

      • October 13, 2011 by samantha

        If you dont like a stinky apartment then MOVE or CLEAN IT. It seems there are way to mant people worried about smokers but dont seem to have a problem with drunk drivers. This has gotten way out of hand. I live in Ohio and I voted yes for a law that made it illegal to smoke in a bar, restuarant public places like that , and yes im a smoker. I did this because it was the right thing to do nobody should have to smell smoke while they are eating or enjoying an afternoon at the park with their children. I dont have that right to impose my habits on anyone else, BUT telling someone they cannot smoke in their home because its adjoing with another unit is absolutely ABSURD. Government doesnt have the right to tell me what I cant do in my own home, as usual they want to be big brother, well guess what Im 36 years old and Im a big girl. I know smoking causes all different kinds of cancer and thats my choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • October 13, 2011 by Nita

        I personally think things are going to the dogs. It is completely wrong to tell people who are paying rent they can't smoke in their unit. I have lost people to cancer who haven't smoked a day in their life so get off of the second hand smoke blah blah bull crap. I find lots of thing offensive, but I don'[t set out to make a jerk out of myself by trying to take away someone's freedom to do it I just take myself out of the situation and leave them to live their own life and that's what people need to do mind their own business.

      • October 23, 2011 by clane

        Then don't rent it. You don't have to rent a smoked in apartment.

      • October 30, 2011 by Bruce Schacter

        Smoking at home and while driving are two of the last spaces we can feel comfortable enough to light up without being persecuted by the non-smoking population. It is our choice to smoke - albeit a poor decision - but we have our personal rights to do so regardless of next-door neighbors. When purchasing a condo, or considering the move to an apartment, it is the new buyers/renters obligation to ask the question and determine if smokers live next door to them before making their move. How many people are kept awake at night due to a neighbor's dog that barks incessantly?? These anti-smokers can complain all they want, but smoking in a person's abode is not going to be enforced...

      • October 30, 2011 by JR

        First off, that is a violation of rights if I have ever heard of one. Second, if they make it illegal for us to smoke in one's own appartment, then why not make it illegal to set an alarm because the neighbor might hear it or to not eat a paticular dish of food at one's home because the neighbor might smell it and make them feel sick to their stomach. I am sure thankful that I am not represented by the group of people who call themselves the Belmont City Counsil who represnt a big portion of where America went wrong.

      • November 3, 2011 by Josie

        Hey Brenda, I am a non smoker, always have been. I'm NOT one of these nut cases who HAD smoked, I KNEW because I was smarter than most, that putting smoke in one's lungs HAS to be bad, That said, even I can understand Gestapo like laws (even though done for a noble reason) is BAD news, VERY bad. First, you mention smoke laden walls, well, that's why hotel rooms are divided, and so should apartments or condos. But to tell someone what they can or can't do in the privacy of their own PAID for home is going too far. You mention your rights begin where the other's nose begins. Fine, so what about people losing sleep because a couple is busy making love. That is also a violation of my right to get a GOOD NIGHT's sleep. Sound ridiculous? No way if you consider what these jackasses are doing to smokers in their own homes. When does this stupidity end??? ANYONE CAN CLAIM ANY ILL HEALTH DUE TO WHATEVER THEIR NEIGHBOR MIGHT BE DOING IN THEIR OWN HOME. I just wish folks would use half the brain that God gave a duck.

      • November 4, 2011 by Elaine

        When you moved in it wasn't a smoke free apartment was it? If u don't like it then move your rear out and shut up. Your home is your own dwelling and you should be able to do whatever you want in your own home. It's like having to use seat belts in your own vehicle. We have no rights here in America anymore.

      • November 5, 2011 by Tim Blanton

        for the people in states that have not yet allowed the smoking nazi's into your state. stick to your cig's or this too will be how it works for you. this is suposed to be America, and in America a person is allowed to do what he/she wants in there home. This is just one more method that is used by cause mongers to tell the rest off use how to live. If your nose is close enough to my cigar in my house, the hand holding the cigar may smack your nose for telling me whats OK in a house other than yours. mind your self, not myself.

      • November 5, 2011 by Voiceoreason

        Next thing you know you will tell us what kind of deodorant we can wear. It's hypocrites like you that pick a topic to be a complete butt about but then will defend your rights with voracity. I am tired of hearing what it good for you, god knows this is ALL ABOUT YOU. Gee, can I be like you too? are you going to make me be like you?

      • November 14, 2011 by Debby

        If any non-smokers don't want to be around smokers in "their homes", then I suggest you have YOUR city build non-smokling apartments for you. The smokers have had enough of their rights taken away. No, I don't smoke, but enough is enough! Equal rights are equal rights...butt out! Pun intended.

      • November 30, 2011 by Mike

        This is bull. I have 3 neighbors on every side of me each side and above they all smoke I have asthma and it DOES NOT get into my apartment ever, I would know. If it does then your Property Management firm should be contacted to fix the problem Also waiting to see how long the lawsuits start against these cities and after the California Supreme Court rules they are illegal how much it is going to cost the cities for lawyer fees and taxpayers Big Brother needs to keep out of apartments and condos

      • December 10, 2011 by Jim

        Then you must really freak out when you go outside and breathe in pollution, vapors, smog, fumes, etc. What do you do--hold your breath? lol.

      • December 10, 2011 by Rayford

        Why don't you go buy a house then you can control what goes on in the home. You or the government has a right to tell people what they can do with their own bodies. That is what is wrong with US now people are getting in other people's business. Everybody needs to mind their own business!!!!!

      • December 13, 2011 by Michael J. Benardo

        You should have a window opened. Sealed houses breed TB and pneumonia. The stink you smell is not because somebody in your building smokes, it is because you won't allow fresh air into your apartment, hence, it smells stale. Because it is.

        Mike

      • December 15, 2011 by James

        I bet you go out drinking, thne get in your vehicle and drive. That bothers me, becuse you put me at risk.

      • December 18, 2011 by sherri kirkland

        If you do not pay for their apartment you should not have a right to tell that person how to live. People smoke in their cars too. You think you should have the right to tell them where to drive because it bothers you. YOU DONT PAY THEIR BILLS you should mind your own business. Otherwise rent a house and you won't have to deal with other peoples habits that you don't like. I dont think drinking should be legal but I beleive people should be able to do what they want as long as they do it in the comfort of their own home, KEY WORDS THEIR HOME NOT YOURS

      • December 19, 2011 by SGB

        @smoking in belmont: Yes, your stinky smokes threatens my life because it triggers asthma, which can kill.

    • January 17, 2010 by Donald Mason

      Smoking must have clouded your rational thinking....telling you what to read...burning books? What has that to do with smokers endangering others health? I could care less what you read or think...but I do care when your addiction impacts my health and well being. I don't expect you or most of your ilk to agree with me as you are the same people who will enganger the health of their own young children by smoking even in a car with them! It would be refreshing just once to hear a smoker just admit the truth...that they are addicted to a foul cancer causing drug that not only endangers their health but their own loved ones as well as many innocent others who are also put at risk through their weakness and disregard for others wellbeing. It is a really inexcusable and selfish act to do.

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      • January 18, 2010 by Rick Starwindwalker

        On page 21, Keith Lewis responded to my post by admitting he was a "sorry, weak-willed addict". Unfortunately, he went on to justify himself by saying he's only hurting himself and then accusing me of being afraid of all kinds of absurd things. It would be refreshing to hear an admission from smokers on the level you suggest; however, I am finding the effect of abulia I mentioned previously makes a great majority of these people unreachable. It doesn't seem to matter how many facts from exhaustive studies from both government and private sectors they read, or pictures of blackened lungs and huge tumors they see, or news reports of homes and families being burned out from smokers' carelessness, or hearing accounts like mine, of my 40 year-old ex-wife losing both her breasts, and then getting lung and brain tumors, losing her beauty, and then dying in horrible pain and suffering from the chemo that was supposed to stop the spread of cancer. It is easy to blame people for their selfish acts; yet the blame really belongs squarely on the Tobacco Giants and their long-standing production and advertising tactics. Regardless, the responsibility lies with the smokers' ability to make positive choices for themselves and those around them, as well as the tobacco companies, insurance companies [like Liberty Mutual] and municipal governments, among others, to change policies and come in line with respect for human life.
      • June 24, 2010 by JSY1221

        Oh please, I live in a condo, the gentleman that lives next to me is a smoker and the only reason that I know this was because I knocked on his door to ask him if he had any water damage from storms. When he opened the door I then could smell the cigarettes...I had no clue for 2 years that this man even smoked. My son's room shares a common wall, my son has asthma, not one attack in the 2 years we've been living there and my son can always smell cigarettes...he also had no clue. What is wrong with this world that we are going to tell people what they can and can't do in their home. Cigarettes are not an illegal substance, if someone wants to smoke in the privacy of their condo or apartment (and I've been apartment and condo living for 11 years and have yet to be affected by anyone's smoking habits), they should be able to do so, they pay rent, just as I do and they have rights. I don't want the state or government dictating my life in my home, it won't stop at cigarette smoking and before you know it we no longer will be a free country, What is wrong with everyone that no one sees how this violates our rights whether or not you are a smoker, this is just the beginning...welcome to communism.

      • July 2, 2010 by Ty

        Car, bus, lawnmower, snow blower, gas edger and truck exhaust are as or more dangerous. Unless you start walking, biking, only buying locally produced goods, mow and shovel manually, STFU

      • July 7, 2010 by Sharon

        I don't think you were very nice. You don't get it. By our governments dictating what we can do in our own homes, cigarette smoking is only the beginning. Let me ask you something -- are you perfect with no bad habits? I have worked all of my life and have always been healthy, yet my taxes go up and so does my insurance when I have to help pay for people who have bad health issues because of their eating, drinking and lazy lifestyles. I have also known health nuts who died at relatively young ages, regardless of how hard they tried not to get sick. Just because medical technology is able to keep people alive who in the past would have died doesn't give you a guarantee to a long life. I also think too many people make themselves sick and die just from "worrying" about such matters. You might try taking some nutrition, health and biology classes if you don't believe me. Your genetics have a lot to do with your health and lifespan, and that can't be blamed on the world in general (or your neighbors).

      • November 2, 2010 by DUTCH

        ALL THESE SHS LAWS ARE BASED ON THE LIE THE EPA TOLD IN 1995.THEY NEVER PROVED SHS EVER HARMED ANYONE! COMMON SENSE WILL TELL YOU, IF IT TAKES A SMOKER 15-20 YRS. TO GET CANCER, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE SOMEONE ACROSS THE ROOM TO GET IT? 100 YRS. MAYBE?

      • November 23, 2010 by jeni

        Millions of Americans are allergic to the mold in perfume. Are we banning perfume?

      • November 27, 2010 by rose

        Reallly? I have lived in my apartment going on 6 years. I have seen neighbors come and go above me and below. Yes there were some that were annoying, but my current neighbor below is a chain smoker and has a terrible case of smokers cough. In the evening, he sits on his patio talling onthe phone (loudy) and smokes one after the other. The smokes drifts into my apartment and forces me to close the windows and run the air conditioning..mind you it is cold outside. I have asthma and have complained to the management several times. The response is "he/she are allowed to smoke, make reasonable noise between the hours of 8am to 10pm. And I have to accept this eventhough the neighbor's chain smoking is litterly choking me. Then he has the nerve to complain to management that I "slam" my door shut and that is disruptive to the neighbors life...something is totally off balance here. I need a resolution to this. Any advice out there?

      • December 19, 2010 by R

        Well then. lets get alcohol in this mix! Lets focus on the true dangers of alcohol also. It leads to child abuse, spousal abuse, misconduct in public, vehicle accidents that kill people and murder just to mention a few. How about that????? And, the consumption of alcohol is done in the home also. So, how bout we make it illegal to drink in your APARTMENT ALSO. Because that could be offensive if you have to listen to someone getting beat or even killed because of an alcohol induced rage. How bout the alcoholic that passes out while cooking and catches their apartment on fire. Hmm, I think this could lead to the death of a loved one also. DON'T YOU? or i guess their child can just grow up with the scars from having survived with burns over 70% of their body, i guess that would be acceptable because it wasn't second hand alcohol that caused their injuries!

      • May 14, 2011 by CB

        I am a smoker, but I do consider those who don't. What I do in MY apartment is my business. If I'm around someone that doesn't smoke, I'll ask them if my cigarette smoke would bother them, if they say YES I move away, if NO then I'll light up. I DO NOT smoke around children or the elderly no matter where I'm at. Everyone is different whether they smoke, drink, exercise, whatever, to each his/her own. And yes, I do know that smoking is not good for my health, but it's MY CHOICE to smoke, I thought that is what made the US so great/different from other countries-having CHOICES. If one day I give it up great, it's not my place to tell other smokers where they should or should not smoke. Everyone will do whatever they want for however long they want to do it. When a person is ready to quit, they will no matter what the General Surgeon, statistics and other data may or may not prove. I smoke out on my balcony not in my apartment.

      • August 5, 2011 by Deb

        Ok, I am a smoker and YES, I am addicted to nicotine. I will say I OWN my own home and will do as I wish. I also will say if I lived in an apartment I would also do as I wish. That is going to be VERY hard to prove and lawsuits will be coming I am sure. I get the second hand smoke stuff. I do NOT smoke in my car or in my home when my grandkids come over. I have all the windows open when I do smoke anyways and most times I actually go out on the front porch. I actually believe that second hand smokes needs to be just that...SECOND HANDE right next to another person for it to be harmful. If you are sitting on a beach and another person is like 10 feet away they are NOT going to get Cancer from you smoking. Just not going to happen. If a smoker is in their own apartment and the next door neighbor can slightly SMELL some smoke, again they are NOT going to get Cancer from this. This is just worked up people with nothing better to do with their life or their time. They want to bud into others business where they should stay the heck out of. Just wonderful to pit neighbor against neighbor. If you do NOT like it, non smokers need to move. I guess its OK for the drunk to drink in his apartment and then get in his car in the apartment parking lot and be driving drunk. And what about people wearing perfume...Makes allergies much worse for people with allergies. What about loud music that can harm eardrums. These can harm people but its always the smokers that get the heat. ALWAYS...I never smoke in someone elses home or car. I do not smoke in outside patios where people are sitting or near the pool areas of places. These non smokers need to really get a life. How sad for them they have nothing better to do. It is NOT going to work because I feel that most neighbors will NOT report their neighbor....just because they know this one ban will lead to many many others and more of your own freedoms will be lost. Be careful what you wish for. I can see LOTS of punctured tires on peoples cars and broken windows if neighbors turn on their neighbors...Smokers are doing to do what they wish in their own homes and apartments and BIG BROTHER needs to butt out. Literally...

      • August 5, 2011 by Sandy

        Rose....One word...MOVE

      • August 8, 2011 by Don K.

        Does anyone know personally for a fact that someone has died of second hand smoking? My mom was a non smoker and was never exposed to second hand smoking, but she passed away from lung cancer for unknown reason. My mom's older brother's wife also had a minor lung cancer and she has never smoked or have been exposed to second hand smoking.

        Honestly, I gag from fumes coming out of city buses and trucks more than from a bar filled with smoke. There is no solid proof that cigarettes cause cancer, studies have shown that it "may" cause cancer. I have known many people who have smoked for 60-70 years and died from old age.

        What I really want to ban are the people who are so full of themselves because they hate the smell of tobacco smoke and just want to ban smoking for their own personal reasons. Thank GOD I don't live in California, the worst place for smokers. You know when I was a kid, second hand smoke never bothered me. My grandpa smoked pipes, cigars, and cigarettes next to me and it never bothered me a bit. If I was locked in a closet with him smoking, yes of course, that's a no brainer. California's SMOG is from CARS, not second hand smoking, I rather have them BAN cars before cigarettes. You snobs should first fix air pollution which cause acid rain, which actually is killing the eco system, plus causes asthma.

      • August 19, 2011 by Steve

        It doesn't matter whether I live in a house or an apartment, you or any one else does not have the right to come in and tell me what I can or can't do in the privacy of my home. Taking freedoms away starts small and before you know it you have no freedoms at all.

      • August 19, 2011 by Joseph Larsen

        You can only give your freedoms away. In Washington State their is now a tax on sugar. It is added for soda and candy to try and sway people from eating those. This was done after the state passed all the laws against cigarettes and banning smoking from all public areas. In fact it has been debated whether or not to allow people to smoke in their own vehicles do toll personnel. That ban may be coming but back to the point, once a liberty is taken away, you never get it back without a fight. First, cigarettes. Fine, I don't smoke. So why are we banning them rather than letting public opinion govern what happens. Make laws stating that waitstaff don't have to work in smoking areas. You'll find people that will. Banning them from bars. Border towns in Washington such Clarkston, Pullman, and others saw their bars close overnight when the ban went into effect because Idaho doesn't have the ban. In New York and California, they passed laws against trans fat (the stuff found in vegetable oils). The Democrat Congress (before it was replaced in 2010) proposed a tax on sugary drinks, junk food, and anything "unhealthy" as part of the health care bill. Now it is just a part of the health care bill that can effect premiums by weight since this country is considered 20lbs heavier than it was a generation ago (the average age is 10 years older too, but no one likes that fact). You see, the more you allow, the more they take. Give an inch and they take a mile.

      • August 21, 2011 by Alica Ravlin

        When are you people that want to control everyone's livesaround you going to realize that you are giving into the government that is intent on taking all of are freedoms away.

        Look in that grocery there is more chick than beek or pork or fish. Government control. It is getting to the point that you cannot even breathe any more because it is bothering some idiot that wants to control that to.

        When are we going to stop trying to control everything in every ones life. Wake Up you are doing exactly what this government wants you to do. Remember the Patriot Act on 2001 that allow the police or FBI or any government agency to enter your home at any time because that THINK you have commited a crime. No search warrant is required.

        Keep up try to control everything around you and pretty soon you willnot be able to live.

      • September 21, 2011 by inxy

        Smoking is legal. If you do not like it, move to a smoke free area. It is your choice what you do in your house, but my choice what I do in my house. I am offended because you do not smoke. So start smoking.

      • October 17, 2011 by bev

        uh..what you said isnt true.there are lots of ppl that got cancer that have never smoked or allowed themselves to be around seconhand smoke.I think a lotof ppl like you are brainwashed.SORRY..

      • October 21, 2011 by burythemdeeply

        You're right my friend, but it does not help us to be critical of smokers. Look, anyone who would put a cancer stick in his or her mouth and chock to death, will not have the good sense to listen to good advice from anyone. Ask yourself, how can anyone live so long and become so dumb? Is there a disability in learning in this country?

      • October 28, 2011 by Theoldtrooper

        How wise! I suppose the dead kids full of alcohol in burning autos are different. Or the cokeheads stealing and killing others. Alcohol and drugs are responsible for far more deaths than cigarette smoke ever will. I am 87, an amputee with many other problems. I have smoked since I was 15 - when I entered the US Army to fight for freedom of the American people. I still smoke cigars and drink whiskey, and will outlive some of you prudes out there!

      • November 26, 2011 by Diane Geiger

        I am a smoker and I agree with you. I do not expose others to my smoke. second hand smoke is harmful to others. But this smoking in your own home thing being outlawed is scary because of what might come next in terms of governmental control. It doesn't hurt anyone else to smoke in one's own home. It doesn't move through walls ! What's the deal ? Can you explain to me how the person next door is effected ? I don't get it.

    • January 26, 2010 by Jeanette Nagy

      If this law passes .. I will go to jail because, noone is going to stop me from smoking in my own home. Are people going to have to live in fear in their own homes? This is America and she is in trouble. I think it is because we have taken our freedoms for granted and as far as myself I allways think "oh no .. that won't happen" boy was I wrong .. and as long as the people take the time and effort to make obscene laws like this and their is noone stopping them they will get away with it and have so far. And also I wonder about these organizations for instance global warming "really not proven yet" but how much money do they get? government grants? Is there money to be made in these kind of campaignes?

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      • June 9, 2010 by Valerie

        I agree so much with you....especially the Global Warming crapola! Have you seen Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura? Makes you really think about things. I live on the Gulf Coast and until about 10 years ago never heard the term "El Nino or El Nina" for causing bad weather! Now, if the government can't even control illegal immigration, how are they going to police anyones smoking habits? And congrats to California, Arnold and Boxer is on their way OUT!

      • July 31, 2010 by Joan H. Bush

        I do NOT believe government should be allowed to dictate what I can or cannot do in my own home as long as the action itself is not illegal(such as growing pot in my kitchen). I smoked for 67 years and did so outsside my apartment for about 8 of those years. My health has dictated my quitting (which I have done and switched to electronic cigarettes) but I do not believe I (OR ANYONE ELSE) has the right to tell you what you can/cannot do in your own home. The only restriction I have seen that makes sense is the LANDLORD WHO WILL NOT RENT TO A SMOKER. His property, his rules.

    • April 9, 2010 by Reg Mann

      America is no longer the land of the free, nor the home of the Brave who would stand up to such invasive restrictions on our freedom. While second hand smoke may be dangerous to others, even if science still seems to have yet proven that even to it's self, there should be provisions in this bill to allow smokers some freedom. I found mine!! I started smoking electronic cigarettes so no second hand smoke for them to whine about. And no taxes either! HA HA I say to the government now. You can have my ecig when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. I learned about them at the Electronic Cigarette Spot and they really are the best thing since sliced bread!

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      • August 26, 2011 by Charles Hopper

        Regg Mann, Alica Ravlin, It's not a govenment that's taking our rights away it's communisim, and the American people had better wake-up to that FACT. In 1941 the communists said they would take over this country and never have to fire a shot, "WELL WAKE-UP!"

    • June 21, 2010 by Fisherking

      This is not about health or smoky apartments...it is hysterics and It is my sincerest hope that every smoke nazi gets cancer and dies anyway...the world will be a better place without 'em.

      -FK

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      • July 7, 2010 by Sharon

        I agree. Some people have nothing better to do with their time than try to infringe on others' freedom. Maybe they should try to find a new hobby that will broaden their intellectual horizons. That might give them something better to think about. Remember that old saying -- "misery loves company". Well, I believe that miserable people want everyone else to be miserable. It's actually a form of mental illness and they should go and see a psychiatrist. I'm tired of the mentally ill getting attention because they behave so badly are more noticed than those of us who mind our own business and have better things to do with our time than stick our nose in others' lives. It's their way of diverting attention away from the important issues at hand. As a Native American, I say anyone who doesn't like it here can go back to where they came from. Native Americans have always used tobacco and it didn't seem to bother anyone back then when they took everything away from us by force. I, too, will keep smoking and blow my smoke in anyone's face who is rude enough to make a comment about it. Why are non-smokers always placing themselves in places where smokers go and then complain? Like they're the only ones who matter. You're right. The world might be better off without them because they're weak.

      • July 23, 2010 by Karin Stokoe

        People need to realize a couple of things. Smoking is not good for you. I think that fact has been established. For the sake of my loved ones I have started on electronic cigarettes. They are great. However, when a governmental organization steps in with the words , "We are doing this for the people's health and welfare.", look out! You are just about to be screwed. They always start out that it is what is best for us. They just don't mention that the next step they take is going to be to take more of our freedoms from us. Wake up people. It starts in one town. What happens here may determine a lot of our future!

      • November 2, 2010 by DUTCH

        SELFISH

      • August 20, 2011 by jms

        AMEN and thank you!!!!!!!

      • September 17, 2011 by wayne

        well hell people have died from car crashes lets take all the cars off the road.and yeah no planes they crash and kill people oh and while your at it lets ban bad weather that destroys homes and lives if you don't like my second hand smoke stay the hell away from me

    • July 16, 2010 by June

      wow that really sucks......this smoking ban has gone way too far.......my father smoked heavy for 60 yrs....and my mother did NOT get any second hand smoke that sickened her.....this is ridciulous.....geez, remind never to come to california!!!!

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    • July 21, 2010 by Richard Bentley

      I live in apartment and this man smokes on and on next to my door and there is not a thing I can do my word is why can places let where you eat not to smoke and that are not to be smoking but in apartments they are not seen the same there is more then one person in it. if its not the same what you say is you do not care if someone is making someone die or become sick and then with out that law you make your medicare cost go up for you have then more become sick because of it why is that

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      • December 10, 2010 by ruth

        get off it, the smell is not going to do a dam thing to you, as long as you are not in the room he smokes in.

      • August 6, 2011 by Shawn

        After reading your comment, I'm thinking a smoking neighbor is the least of your problems.

      • August 9, 2011 by Red

        Perhaps the most intelligent thing I've seen posted on this issue. It actually scared me more to see how many people are illiterate and incapable of forming sentences using correct grammar, punctuation and spelling than the threat to my freedom. Does anyone realize that our country is more likely to collapse from illiteracy than it is from second hand smoke?

    • August 10, 2010 by David Prescott

      Preposterous. Show us the evidence, scientific evidence that secondhand smoke can penetrate wood, steel, concrete, flooring, tiling, plaster, etc. and all of that after going through the air-filter in ones central air? It's even more ridiculous because someone made the argument that it is illegal to walk around in your home with the blinds open. Yet I don't hear anyone telling everyone to watch outside their neighbors windows and make sure they don't see any nudity! Imagine if they did! Oh, and will they be allowed to ban all the fat people too next? Will it be illegal to feed your children McDonald's soon? Will you have to check in with a dietician? How are they going to enforce this? Witch hunts? Will a mere report, circumstantial and second-hand information from a neighbor be enough to get you evicted? How is that fair? Can they ban ignorant people from apartments as well please? This is all to raise money and cover people's asses. I guess times are tough huh? Prohibition all over again. If you won't ban carbon-burning automobiles, which arguably do more damage to everyone's health, why smoking for tenuous reasons? Hypocritical at best, 1933 Germany at worst.

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    • August 12, 2010 by Dj

      It sounds like we are headed for socialism and will have no rights. This country was founded on freedom and freedom of speech. Obama isn't sticking to his word just like the other Presidents.

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    • August 18, 2010 by linda

      what are the laws in colorado i dont mind if a person smokes but if that person keeps her or his self locked up in there apartment allday then decides to open their door to let all that smoke or cigar smell out that is what is sickining

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    • September 28, 2010 by Debra

      But burning a book does not harm anyone. I lost both of my parents because of smoking. My dad because he smoked, he had lung cancer. My mom because of second-hand smoke, she had cancer too. They both die with-in 8 months of each other.

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    • October 16, 2010 by clyde stewart

      i smoked for 43 years as much as 3 packs a day thru the mersy of the good lord i went cold turkey i know how hard it is to quit, to them that dont smoke why dont you quit eating sweets, drinking sodas, wine whiskey, beer all this should not be allowed in the dwelling also because it may create a problem to them next door by your loud noise,fighting,trash, bad oders ECT.

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    • November 14, 2010 by Larry

      We are in America not Russia,if i pay rent or own my apartment or condo what gives anyone the right to take my private rights away,its a little over controlling even by California standards, i guess thats why we have so many problems with our government we the people have given them way to much power so now its starting to show,by getting into my personal space,i think there are much more important things on a bigger level than home invasion by our government.

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    • December 31, 2010 by moo

      heil hitler to that pretty pethetic!

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    • February 28, 2011 by dennis brooks

      I'm a ex smoker! These people are out of there minds. This is a violation of human rights.......people who like to smoke or have an addiction, our being treated like leopards of Roman times. It's a shame that in American we enact these wacked out laws that our soilders fight for and die for called ............."FREEDOM"

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      • August 6, 2011 by Jaci

        you mean lepers?? not leopards....those are jungle cats....

    • August 5, 2011 by Martin

      It's already hear in the good ole USA. Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five has been banned along with other books in a school's curriculum in Missouri for it's alleged "shocking material". This country sorely needs to take a second look at all of its tyrannical laws which includes cigarette smoking and the failed War on Drugs.

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    • August 18, 2011 by JKeczan

      I completely agree with this law. Second hand smoke is just as dangerous as first hand. I will definitely support this law if it comes to my town.

      My father is a smoker and he even goes outside to smoke in his own house, every day of the year.

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      • September 26, 2011 by Bob

        If it also includes marijuana, with the same penalty, then maybe yes.

    • August 25, 2011 by jmd

      There are no questions about the negative consequences of smoking on both the smoker and those directly exposed to second-hand cigarette smoke. Many are concerned that laws and regulations aimed at smoking will trickle down to the same for other bad habits, like overeating. My concern is that they won't. As a hospital employee who is witness to many patients suffering from respiratory and cardiac complications from long-term tobacco use, I realize that smoking is definitely a major concern in our society. However, when I walk the halls of the hospital, I sometimes do a quick calculation in my mind as to the high percentage of people who are obese. Many of the patients that I deal with in my position are there due to obesity. Many of these patients' family members are just earlier versions of the patients themselves. And, just as evident, a high percentage of the employees who walk these halls are obese. I will concede my right to damage my well-being with tobacco smoke when that right includes other detrimental habits and lifestyles, including overeating. I will concede my right to damage my well-being with tobacco smoke when that right includes other detrimental habits and lifestyles, including overeating. I believe that "junk food," and "fast food" items should carry health warnings as tobacco products are required to. Children and associates of the morbidly obese should be protected from "second hand sandwiches," as the laws and regulations attempt to protect them from contaminated air. If this seems to be an extreme statement, seek the statistics announced last year about the number of deaths from obesity surpassing the number from tobacco use.

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    • August 27, 2011 by Jyoti Patel

      Day by day our freedom to do what we want has been eroded. Are we turning into a police state?

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    • September 1, 2011 by Gregg

      Second hand smoke is life threatening. People have died from second hand smoke.

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    • September 5, 2011 by terry imholt

      Never never give up your rights.

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    • September 8, 2011 by Gabe

      Yes, it should be illegal. while we are at it, let's outlaw the following: - eating meatballs on Wednesday - wearing black T-shirts and hats with non-approved logo's - i don't know...maybe, clipping nails between 8:00 AM and 12:00 PM on Sundays - one should be at some sort of church then (not beeing there should be illegal as well)

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      • October 21, 2011 by Su

        I agree with Red! It's funny, almost all of the people posting here are smokers. They are showing us that their intelligence level at a whole is very low.

        Really? Someone really wrote "her or his self" and "sickining"?

        I find it really hard to listen to your side of the argument if you can't properly express yourself.

    • September 19, 2011 by sam

      Yes it Originated in NAZI germany by the Other HIPOCRITE HITLER...He was the Nazi that started it all and CONDONED BOOZE like all the rest of the IDIOTS in the USA

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    • September 23, 2011 by Shirley Walser

      in answer to the headline question---- absolutely not! FREEDOM means just that, freedom, especially in your own home. Some people are not happy unless they are on a "cause" that builds up their own ego, therefore they are telling others how to live. Live and let live that is the answer to a lot of problems. Some people just like to complain because they live in an apt. and and can't get the landlords to paint and fix it up so ...there you go.....Come to my house and if something is said about my smoking I will do you as I did one lady who was uninvited to start with, shown the door and never let in again. Although she did return trying to preach a crazy religion to me. Thanks I know God and don't need her nor anyone else trying to tell a greatgrandmother what to do.

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    • October 1, 2011 by Victor Wimsett

      No way should any Government have the right to tell anyone what they can do in the privacy of their home or apartment. Is the U. S. A. becomming a Communist country country???

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    • October 2, 2011 by Patrick

      They have no right to limit what one can do in one's own home. The current U.S. Gov't. has become a form of NAZIISM, not exactly led by an "Arian" this time! We need to do something to end it!

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    • October 13, 2011 by Kathy

      When these fool idiots start paying my damn bills then you can tell me what i can do in my house. pay my rent otherwise kick rocks and die you nosey control freaks.

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      • October 18, 2011 by Becky

        Clearly banning smoking in your own home is absurd, as are most of the public smoking bans. People should be allowed to smoke however much they want within reason, and more buildings, businesses, restaurants, etc should be permitted to have "smoking sections" for their business.

        I used to only smoke one and a half to maybe two packs a day, but when my former employer banned smoking during work hours, I couldnt take the smoke breaks I needed, so I had to get a different job and start working from home on the internets. Now I smoke at least three packs a day, almost four, because my environment promotes it. As weird as it sounds, the proliferation of public smoking bans have actually caused me to chain smoke more, as I'm left alone in my trailer basically smoking the days away.

    • October 23, 2011 by Breeze

      Regulating smoking is not just regulating behavior, it is banning a known carcinogen which the State of CA has officially classified as an "airborne toxic substance." Second-hand tobacco smoke is not merely an annoyance like cooking odors. It is a health hazard well-established to cause disease and death. It is illegal to fire a gun in your apartment because the bullet poses threat to your neighbors. So does your cigarette smoke when it permeates into adjacent apartments!

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    • October 28, 2011 by bobby hicks

      The U.S. Government has their noses stuck so far up other countries asses and the American public are the ones who are suffering.

      We people the American voters, have lost all control of Washington to all of the crooks now in office. If you think that for one second that your vote counts, then think again, it does not count for anything.

      The people in Belmont or anywhere else for that matter should be allowed to do whatever they please in their own homes without fear of being arrested and then thrown out into the streets because someone doesn't like second hand smoke.

      I woke up in the united states of America, but I'm not sure if this country is leaning more towards communism and adopting the rules of other communist countries.

      We are indeed living in an Orwellian society, because brother is really really watching you. You might not realize it, but the thought Police are listening to your every word, and are watching your every move.

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    • November 7, 2011 by Omaha smoker

      How many rights and freedoms are going to be taken away from us before we are completely a communist country?

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    • November 12, 2011 by jolie

      really...you are equating burning books with a known cancer causing substance? when you or someone you know chooses to smoke and they do so in a manner that can potentially cause someone else cancer - that is a bit different from burning books.

      I have a neighbor that chooses to smoke in the stairwell of out building. They can't smoke in their apt. because of the second hand smoke. The smoke does drift up to our apts. and it is gross and is second hand smoke of which, science has shown does cause cancer. THe person has been told to GO OUTSIDE but it's raining, it's snowing, its hot, its cold, its windy - whatever - they still smoke in the stairway. Because smoke is dangerous to everyone's health, the willful smoking and thus harming other's health should be fined. People, in general will not make a moral choice to do right by others, and often causing a displeasure greater than the benefit is what motivates people to stop negative behaviour. MOst people do not have a moral compass that guides them to make choices that benefit others. so, we have the law to be the conscience. That is the crux of the issue.

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    • December 3, 2011 by SingingHawk

      George Orwells 1984 is fast becoming a reality. Orwell’s 1984 opens in London, now a part of the country Oceania. The whole globe is divided into three countries, Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia all perpetually at war with each other. The leading protagonist Winston Smith enters his flat in the dingy building ironically named Victory Mansions and is immediately conscious of the poster of “Big Brother” with the inscription “Big Brother is Watching You.” The “Party” has taken over all aspects of life and is intent on eradicating individuality. Winston is painfully aware of the telescreen, which is both a receiver and transmitter at the same time. It incessantly relays messages from the Party and simultaneously allows the dreaded “thought police” to tune into the activities of any individual at any given time.

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  • March 24, 2009 by Serenity

    I'm not happy about it but I am a smoker..I think about it these days as a substitute for other distractions..addictions..that would be worse..Smoking in an apartment building such as a condo would be offensive, and could be a risk to elderly people's health. For that reason if I rented, I wouldn't choose to live in that sort of setting unless I planned only to smoke outside or quit. I live in a duplex with an exsmoker and a child of 15. He shouldn't be exposed to secondhand smoke either..and I know it is not a good role model behavior..responsibility ..isn't always 100%, that child's room has always been a bigger hazard to his health than my smoke could ever be in my opinion..and perhaps I harbor some resentment..also, he sleeps with his window open..he likes it cold..He wears no coat? I don't know..he's 15..who understands? I am wrong..but he not showing signs of any health problems. My parents smoked. I'm middle aged..I breath, and they both smoked about 3 packs a day. I think perhaps our data is a little bias. also. In regards to the American Cancer Society warnings, and I think I can understand why. But, if smoking is killing people, my question is? Why are we selling so many cigarettes? This country needs to support it's people..just stop selling them..people will stop dying..stop smoking..no issue. I think the reason is ..not enough money to support the people that DO DIE? Who cares? They are old..or dead..

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    • April 10, 2009 by rock

      Many people who smoke are tired of hearing people tell them they should stop... and I agree you should stop... but my point is that they disagree so they try to rationalize it to themselves and to others, often by saying it is a substitute for other, more harmful addictions. This is irrational. No addiction to a harmful substance is any better than another addiction. They all kill you, just in different spans of time. That's right, I said kill you. Whether it takes 4 weeks or 4 decades, death is imminent. I suppose I can't expect anything but an irrational explanation from someone who makes an irrational conscious decision to start/keep smoking when they know the risks and eventual effects. The government is probably crossing the line here, stepping in to such a personal level, but I agree with them. It becomes an issue of the government helping people where they apparently cannot help themselves. If everyone would just stop smoking because it is terrible and disgusting and unhealthy and suicidal as well as homicidal, then they would have no reason to step in and fix this mess. However, people won't quit, so to protect everyone, the government needs to step in. It is not about socialism or communism. They are not looking to step in and control everything. They want people to be healthy, and since we as a whole won't take control of that, they take it into their own hands. They don't want to tell us where to work, live, play, eat, etc., they want to help. People are inherently good, however somewhere along the way, smokers fall off the path, and the gov. is here to correct that.

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      • December 31, 2009 by Amy

        You posted "It becomes an issue of the government helping people where they apparently cannot help themselves." OMG woman, do you have any idea how many men, women and children go to bed every night right here in the good ole' USA HUNGRY? ANd what's government doing to "help" them? NOT A DAMN THING!!!! On the scale of what governement needs to fix and doesn't need to fix, smoking is way down on the bottom of that list! How bout finding homes for all those without them. I'm sure some would even be happy to live in this crazy CA town with no smoking allowed in an apt or condo, just to have a home!!!!! Smoking is nothing when compared to issuse which REALLY matter!!
      • January 15, 2011 by Regina Thomas

        Really??? You think the government should have the power to "fix this mess" of smokers?? Perhaps they can "fix" rude and obnoxious people as well with mandatory brain surgery.

      • August 6, 2011 by shawn

        What! Using your logic, the government should step in and outlaw anything that is unhealthy or could cause you to die before your time? Hmm.. maybe outlaw fast food, or alcohol, or fatty snacks or even krispy creme donuts! All are bad for your health and will shorten your life if you consume enough of it. Should these and other similar products be outlawed as well?

    • May 22, 2009 by Eric Henry

      FYI. Second Hand Smoke is not a myth. No smoker is "healthy as a horse", but I do agree government intervention does go a bit overboard sometimes.

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    • June 16, 2009 by JR

      Have you ever asked this 15 year old if he appreciates your smoking around him and exposing him to your fumes, Serenity? I know that everyone is upset over these things but usually you can't "see" signs that your smoke is harming others. It affects the body inside and sometimes it's over periods of time. The affects to his body now may not show until later. And if you do this on a constant basis you are destroying his health. It must be so terrible for you to have to go outside or sit in your car to smoke but the long-term affects that you are leaving on another human being (and if you smoke in other areas than home, several human beings on a daily basis) and this is unfair to those of us who do not smoke and try to stay very healthy. Some of us have terrible allergies to smoke and what can we do about it? When there are people smoking in doorways we have to cover our faces and hold our breath and practically run through the doorway to avoid you and your cloud of toxins. The reason the government is doing this is because smoking is a serious health hazard but the reason they are meeting such resistance is because so many smokers are fighting for their right to kill themselves and others. And you ARE killing others. Eventually smoking will become an illegal substance just like harmful drugs and it should be. Just because there are so many people out there who want to smoke and don't care about other people's health and well-being means that it will probably be decades before the proper measures are taken to protect the rights of the NON-smokers.

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    • June 9, 2010 by Valerie

      Serenity, you are so funny! But so right! They will not stop selling cigarettes because of the high taxes on them, and the government can't control their spending, so keep selling them! This law is as stupid as the one that made McDonalds take the toy out of the happy meal! Kids are still going to eat the freaking happy meal, toy or not! Back in prohibition days, alcohol was illegal and it didn't stop anyone that wanted to drink from drinking! If they were to outlaw anything, it should be alcohol. It sure kills alot more people a year than cigarettes! And it also kills alot more innocent people than cigarettes!

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    • March 15, 2011 by jan

      My mother never smoked a cigarette in her life and didn't allow anyone to smoke in her house. she had heart trouble, diabetes and high blood pressure. I am 65 and smoke everyday. I take no meds and feel fine. Now get the picture. I don't like looking at fat people but they have the right to be fat. You say they don't pose a danger to you how about a 300 lb man falling on you. How are you going to like it if you're overweight that you can't order a hamburger or steak you must eat a salad.

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      • September 21, 2011 by maddie

        i have a problem with poor venilation more power too you who smoke , smoke that ciggareete or bong or crack pipe just keep your smoke to yourself my apt is my sanctuary , my grandaughter does not need to breath marajuana smoke i t stinks

  • March 26, 2009 by sue

    I think that it is getting to be so ridiculous what the government is sticking their nose in. if i own a condo i should be able to do whatever I want to do in it. The smoke cannot go through the walls. Plus second hand smoke is just a myth. They have not really proofed that there really is that problem. what rights are they going to take away next. Believe me, they will. And if everyone quit smoking, who would pay all those ridicules taxes they have imposed. Put more on drinking, that harms more people then smoking. The government needs to stay out of people's private lives.

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    • March 27, 2009 by fred

      Uuhhh, first off get your facts straight. Secondhand smoke is real. Secondly the taxes put on cigarettes is a deterrent to stop people from smoking as much. They have also made alcohol illegal. In the past it was called the 18th Amendment but because the mob bosses like AL Capone were getting rich off of smuggling alcohol and an increasing demand within the populace it was nullified by the 21st Amendment.

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      • March 30, 2009 by Ken

        Umm, Fred, what facts would these be? Read a few statistics, there is no evidence whatsoever that a lesser smoking population lives longer. The US has gone from being a nation where almost 70% of the population smoked (which it was for half a century BTW) to barely 20% smoke, in that same time frame the percentage of the population that dies annually from every single disease that is associated with smoking or secondhand smoke has increased as the rate of smokers has decreased. There isn't a single smoker that will try and convince you that smoking is good for you, but quite ironically there is no sociological statistics to prove the opposite. To further the paradox the civilized nations of the world with the highest instances of smoking are the nations with the longest life expectancies. Please do not believe me on face value, and by the same token don't believe rhetoric of organizations whose charter is to eliminate smoking either. Do some research, check non-biased sources; statistical abstracts, WHO stats, compare these to the statistics on the instance of smoking in societies. Check Western Europe stats, Japan. ...or then again maybe it's easier for you just to believe the increasingly and ridiculously exaggerated "facts" these organizations throw around. I have seen "facts" on this subject, from supposedly reputable organizations that attribute higher fatality rates from smoking related disease per year than the combined total of all health related deaths combined. Just shows how gullible our society has become.
      • November 2, 2010 by RON

        NO ONE BUT NO ONE HAS EVER PROVED SECOND HAND SMOKE HAS EVER HARMED ANYONE!!!

    • March 31, 2009 by wkj

      Alcohol is legal, what country do you live in? Drinking and driving is illegal not alcohol. There are more toxins in the "clean" air you think you're breathing than smoke from someones cigarette, think about it!

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    • April 17, 2009 by Barb

      Quit your moaning, tobacco use is legal. The government loves the sin taxes, but they're too scared to outlaw tobacco, so they let the states wreak havoc on the smokers. By the way, second hand smoke is just a guess on the effects. No clinical trials, where it has been proven to be a hazard, has been published to date. California has to be the most communist state in the nation. Good luck to you guys, hope they don't find wine to be such a health hazard!

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    • April 22, 2009 by kate montclair

      i can't believe there are people on here saying second hand smoke is harmless. since when is breathing in smoke harmless? People die from smoke inhalation in fires all the time- why? because it is healthy? No, because smoke isn't something we should be breathing in. Please, use some common sense. My husband grew up with parents who smoked. he has COPD and got chronic bronchitis. i used to live with smokers- and now develop a horrible hacking cough and lose my voice each and every time i get sick regardless of what the sickness is. is that enough proof for some of the people on here? Are the actual medical tests not financed by the tobacco industry? Is the lung cancer that killed my father-in-law enough proof? I totally agree with this law. why should a non-smoker have to live with your stink if you smoke?

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    • May 11, 2009 by THERESA CAVES

      I think that it is getting to be so ridiculous as to what the government is sticking their collective noses into. If I own a condo I should be able to do whatever I want to do in it. The smoke cannot go through the walls. Plus second hand smoke is just a myth. They have not really proved that there really is that problem. what rights are they going to take away next. Believe me, they will. And if everyone quit smoking, who would pay all those ridicules taxes they have imposed. Put more on drinking, that harms more people then smoking. The government needs to stay out of people’s private lives.

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    • June 16, 2009 by JR

      Second-hand smoke is very real. Do you know what second hand smoke is? It is the recycled smoke you blow out of your mouth; it is the unfiltered smoke that dangles from the end of the cigarette. It can kill people, it has been PROVEN to affect many children living and growing up in homes of people who smoke, causing them to have asthma, lung disease, lung cancer, pneumonia, etc. Maybe you should read up on the effects. It's the least you can do for your fellow neighbors and Americans.

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      • September 6, 2011 by Gloria

        Beg to differ, second had smoke is just govt propoganda, so is global warming. People believe it. Smoking does harm the smoker but second hand smoke is harmless just irritating. Don't believe everything that's put out there.

    • July 2, 2009 by Rachel

      I totally agree, having grown up around smoking parents and a grandfather who's in his 60's and still smoking. He has been since he was 12, and no doctor has ever found anything wrong with him unless they see he carries a pack on him. They should put more laws on drinking than on smoking as it carries more harm. But like you said, they earn to much money by people smoking.

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    • August 7, 2009 by Jessi

      Listen I have two children when around smokers who are disrespectful and inconsiderate to the people around them, their asthma takes control very quickly. I have individuals within my family who would attempt to smoke around them a few times I didn't even realize but a few times in ER with asthma attack with a two yr. old and be admitted, the doctors informed me of such result. Since no smoking is allowed around my children or I leave or if my own house they leave. Their asthma attacks have decrease to seasonal with allergies only and both have not had any ear infections which were a constant bother, for my youngest at 9mo. old needed tubes in his ears, since everything has been great. So my point is don't ignorant second hand smoke is just as harmful and deadly to us as smoke is to the actual smoker. Have you asked professional physician they would fill you in and I'm sure they would give you material to look at along with statistics.

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    • October 14, 2009 by joe slick

      how ridiculous is that statement. I grew up in a house of smokers. The smoke so thick you can see it 3 feet off the floor. I learned to play outside from morning unto well after dark, sleep with the window open and the door closed, with a towel at the bottom of the door. I threw away ash trays, poured any liquid i could into unattended burning cigs, throw out packs that we unattended..crush them, brake them. But: .... ..... Both grandparents smoked and died of lung cancer. Mother is currently dying from complications of lung cancer. I have asthma, troubles breathing and severe allergies. I have suffered and been a victim my whole life from second had smoke........ For someone to say there is no proof...or that it is a myth...this comes from a self centered, egotistical, SOB. Everyone who smokes should be allowed to do so, but not at the expense of anyone else. Put them in a sealed room, recirculate the room with an air conditioner that has the intake vent on the inside and let them puff away. Then tell me that second hand smoke is a myth. Oh! ;) I get it, you need fresh air, well, we all do so stop smoking!

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      • July 20, 2010 by Cari Geldreich

        Your statement: We pay higher taxes for something we enjoy doing. If they don't like it - tough. So dose this mean if you enjoying killing people it's ok because you are paying more in taxes? This is really sick. Cigarettes are a drug and drug users will do what ever it takes to get their drug. They don't care about anyone even themselves. This is evident in your statement. Its more important for drug users to get their drug than to care about the health, safety, and welfare of everyone around them. I suffer every day at work and in my own home because smokers think its ok to smoke because they are outside. Well all that outside air comes right into my work and my home. You want to belly ache about your right to smoke, well what about my right to clean air? What about my right to not have to suffer everyday from other peoples cigarette smoke? Our laws are getting stricter on factory pollution too. Are you going to defend factories too and say that they have the right to pollute the air? This is not about taking away a persons freedoms, it's about looking out for peoples health. Why don't all of you smokers do yourselves a favor and go to an Asthma clinic and light up a cigarette next to a child that is there for asthma and see for yourself how your actions make another person suffer and ask yourself if what you are doing is really ok. And I just want to say touché to Joe Slick. I loved what you said at the end.

      • September 10, 2010 by Smoking Kills

        You took the words out of my mouth. I used to live with a smoker who couldn't stand someone else's second-hand smoke. He would wave his hand to push the smoke cloud away when walking through one - yet he smoked! Smokers don't realize that other people smell it 10 times worse than they do. They are not on the receiving end of it! It drifts around in a string of death, entering other people's homes. It doesn't just dissipate and disappear into the air - it travels in trails for a long time and then it enters my home where it makes my eyes burn and gives me bad headaches. I wish there was a law that would make smokers have to keep and get rid of their own smoke. I would get in trouble if I just dumped my garbage into someone else's yard, yet they can spew their toxic cigarette smoke into my yard, house, lungs. Ridiculous! Make them be responsible for it.

        This smoking situation is making me mad. It makes me want to take my radio and turn it up really loud and point it at their house whenever they smoke. Yet, I would be the one to get into trouble for just annoying someone while they are TRYING TO KILL ME AND MY FAMILY. I have a little boy who I try to protect from carcinogens entering his body to fester and become cancer someday. Why should I have to move just because of my ignorant tool of a neighbor? Yes, I said tool. Smokers are tools of the tobacco industry who are leaching your money and your very life. They pump chemicals into tobacco to keep you hooked. Cigarettes should be considered habit-forming drugs and made illegal. Yet, smokers keep rewarding those bastards by continually buying their d**n cigarettes! How stupid is that?

        In 1993, the Supreme Court decided that an inmate could sue a prison claiming that exposure to his cellmate’s secondhand smoke could constitute cruel and unusual punishment. Wow, wish I could sue!! Why don't I have the same rights as criminals? After all, I also am being punished for living next door to a loser!

        For all you ignorant smokers who don't think smoking is dangerous, check this out: http://www.thetruth.com/facts/ Be amazed and want to quit after getting the shocking info.

      • August 6, 2011 by shawn

        Well Joe Slick..I got news for you. There's alot more harmful stuff in the air then the second hand smoke drifting into your window. How about that smog problem? that can't be good for you either so therefor we should outlaw vehicles. Maybe utility companies shouldn't be allowed to burn fossil fuels to provide you with electricity? Perhaps the burning of anything should be illegal, after all that smoke might kill you too!

  • March 27, 2009 by Kip Pancake

    Indiana just passed a statewide bill similar to this one. I am trying to figure out when America became a Communist state. To think they can tell us what to do in our around our own home is crazy. It looks like maybe we need to take this country back and limit these lawmakers on what they have the power to control.

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    • June 16, 2009 by JR

      America is finally protecting the rights of the non-smokers. You say that you think America is trying to take away your rights by telling you what you can and can not do in your own home. Did you ever stop to think that maybe America is finally protecting the rights and health of the rest of America? I don't want to inhale second-hand smoke from you or anyone else. It's terrible, smells nasty and hurts my lungs and throat. But guess what? When I go to bed at night, leave a window open for some cool fresh air and all night I'm asleep and don't realize I'm inhaling the smoke from my neighbor below me I will know the next morning because my chest hurts and I have a sore throat. It happens every time I breathe in a little too much smoke. But some people who smoke don't care about the health and concerns of others. Some people want to smoke and by god they are going to do what they want to do, forget what other people feel or have to deal with. It's so selfish of people to think that they should have the right to smoke. They don't. If you want to kill yourselves, go ahead but don't take others down with you. Hurting other people is not within your American rights.

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      • August 17, 2010 by Carol

        So what about the air pollution that is all around you? What are you doing about that? About the bus fumes you inhale on every street corner (MUCH worse than second hand smoke, by the way). Most don't give a damn about that, but if they get a whiff of second hand smoke from a cigarette, all hell breaks loose.

      • December 18, 2011 by sherri kirkland

        Of course you have scientific evidence that proves this is what caused your health problems. If so it would be the first in our history that a person got sick because of what someone did in another dwelling.

    • February 9, 2010 by Bob

      Indiana has no statewide ban,and won't have one until the sponsor backs down on exemptions for casinos in HIS district..

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    • June 26, 2010 by Sharon Langer

      "Allergies" are the most creative defense I have yet seen for "anti-smoking" brigades.Now that you have wiped out smoking in 95% hotel rooms, all airplanes, and most airports and restaurants, you are now going into people's homes, cars and the great outdoors to institute your "right thinking". This is not communisism, it is the tryanny of the majority. My grandmother was a member of the WCTL. I never liked her. I can only hope that we will now get underground cigarette trafficking. Recent legislation is not about our health, it is designed to give States more tax money. It passed because so many of you like it...smokers are easy targets for our legislators while they fail to deal with the real problems..Iraq, Afganistan,recession,energy problems,etc. So...feel happy all of you "allergic" folks.You will stamp out smoking, but what have you done about real issues?

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      • July 2, 2010 by Ty

        That is exactly the point, my wife is allergic to grasses, trees and flowers....that give me the right to demand that the entire community be paved over?

  • March 27, 2009 by jredheadgirl

    This is insane! There is no health risk of SHS through a wall!! Where is the due process of law here? Removing due process of the law with regards to ANY issue should scare the hell out of anyone. Think of the precedent that this sets. Prove it. Prove that there is a carcinogenic level of smoke that can go through walls for crying out loud! You can't, because there IS no health threat. This is un-constitutional, un-American, and is scary as hell. Think Germany circa the Hitler years people. State sponsored hate has no place in a free and just society.

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    • April 25, 2009 by John Severns

      With Bambi in the WH and the Queen in the house, we are in for a battle. It is frightening the similarities of the Bambi WH and his left-wing supporters to Hitler and his cronies. All Christians will be riding trains to "re-education camps” if they get their way!

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    • June 1, 2009 by Jeffrey Rosen

      The reason this ban is in place is due to the following facts. If you smoke on your balcony or your windows are open your second hand smoke can make it to the neighbors open windows. I think all smokers and ex-smokers are familiar with the sounds of closing windows and sliding doors when they lite up and smoke. Secondly depending on your condo and or apartment it's possible for the smell of smoke to make it to adjacent units.

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  • March 29, 2009 by Michelle

    I am a non-smoker but I firmly believe that a person should have the right to smoke in their own house! For crying out loud...this is supposed to be land of the free! It is our money; our health...the government should BUTT OUT.

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    • June 16, 2009 by mamiet hall

      Actually, people do die from smoking and many people are being affected by it. You can also get lung cancer from smoking. I think smokers should waste their money on more important things than on cigarettes because cigarettes don't help you. It affects you and the people around you. I even know people who have died from smoking. I also know people who are lying in the hospital bed sick because they have lung cancer. Just try to quit smoking even though it is not easy. Once you quite, believe it, you will be healthier and happier.

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      • August 11, 2011 by Nurse40

        People die from drinking too much, from being overweight, from car accidents due to bad drivers. Do you want the Govt. to curtail our alcohol? what we eat? How we drive? what else do you want the Govt. to get their crubby little fingers in? Come on, we have too much Govt now. The people should be given the choice. Yes, smoking is bad for you. I started when I was 8 and am now paying for it with Pulmonary fibrosis. This doesn't give the Govt the right to interfere with our lives. Maybe more education would help those who still like to smoke. It was extremly difficult for me to quit, but I knew it was killing me. Plus, they got so expensive, I could no longer afford them. Good luck to all of you smokers. Please try to quit, but keep out Govt. where it belongs, OUT OF OUR LIVES.

    • March 22, 2010 by Mandy Allison Williams

      75% of children who grow up in homes where one or both parents smoke in the home become smokers too. Why should there not be laws to keep parents from smoking around their children? Whether it be in the home, in the car, or in a public place. If these parents are to stupid to care about their own children maybe someone needs to do it for them and make a law that prohibits them from harming their children.

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  • March 30, 2009 by PATSY LUDWIG

    I wanted to say that my mom and my mother in law never smoked are where they around second hand smoke and both of them died of cancer so why do people make a big deal about smoking. I'm 55 and I smoke but as healthy as a horse so people need to let smokers alone.

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    • December 8, 2009 by Brandon Smith

      i agree they need to leave smokers alone we are not disturbing anyone so leave us alone

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      • August 6, 2011 by Jaci

        You aren't disturbing anyone? You're disturbing EVERYONE who does not enjoy breathing your disgusting smoke. I have the right to clean air as much as you do. You don't see me blowing pollution in your face, don't do it in mine.

      • October 21, 2011 by burythemdeeply

        "leave us smokers alone!" You got a lot of nerve, asking us to leave you alone when you are the one spreading those deadly chemicals that kill 4000 people a year! Are you the walking dead or what?

    • December 9, 2009 by Brandon Smith

      i agree we have the right right smoke in our own home if we please no one is saying so unless they want to pay all the bills

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      • April 25, 2010 by Valerie

        I agree if the government is going to tell me I can't smoke in my own home they can pay all my bills too. I would feel the same way if I owned a business. I pay the taxes I pay the insurance I pay all the bill so who are you to tell me the people I will cater to. Just post a sign smokers welcome and if you don't like it don't go in period. Just like I do now. If the place says no smoking I'm fine with that I DON"T GO IN and spend my money.

  • March 30, 2009 by debbie corbin

    What’s next? This is crazy. Cigarettes are unhealthy but other habits people have are so much worse. I agree smoking in certain places not safe for others but in own home is all ridiculous. Communist, go away; this isn’t Russia.

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    • December 30, 2010 by Leona

      Furthermore, the gov. really does not want us to stop, why well they have their hands in the big pharm companies and what about their kick back on the so called legal drugs they give sick people that in all honesty makes them sicker and more dependent. I will do what I want in the walls of my house, screw them. Yes we are losing our rights as free people one law at a time, so when do we begin fighting back and take back our rights??? Of the people by the people, it does not say by the government by the government. I think any and all laws, rights issues should all go to the vote of the people not congress. they are not my voice so why do they think they know how and what I think. time for a change peeps

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  • March 31, 2009 by Wayne Travis

    Tell me I can't smoke in my four walls. The neighbor would be... well you know - not in the best of health. ::: laughs :::: Neighbors for smoking police.

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  • March 31, 2009 by Charles H. Bachman Jr.

    I am tired of all the nonsense the non smokers are putting in every ones head. First and foremost, we pay higher taxes for something we enjoy doing. If they don't like it - tough. Also, you are right about the books soon there will be no children’s books that were published before 1983 because they have lead in the ink now. When are the do gooders going to wise up. This is America people and all are created equal. The biggest cancer is caused by our government. They have bargained with the Tobacco Company and had to pay each state a settlement fund which is now being used for other things then it was intended for. The biggest cancer is the big government that is violating your rights and freedoms and steeling from the public moneys. This is a personal thing and the government should but out. Maybe they should start taxing Gay people just because they want to be gay. The can not rent in a complex because they are gay. They may transmit second hand gayism. We certainly Donor want Americas children exposed to that they will get AIDS or worst yet they may contract the government maid HIV virus. Oh No! Get off your high horse none Smokers. Some of these people don't even realize what is going on around them. All the while the fat cats of the government are getting rich and above the law. Oh! And another thing ask how many members of the MADD group had gotten charged with DUI then ask how many politicians had gotten the full wrath of the law on DUI. Start looking at what is going in and around you people. Do you really think that the people you put into office are working for you best interest? If you do then you deserve every thing you get. Then let’s talk about what is really causing the cancer through this country of ours. Let’s talk about the radiation levels that are in the areas in which you live. Do you think that smoking is the main cause of the cancers we are getting? If so then you are a bigger fool then the smoker. Do you know why we have so much trouble in our streets of this nation? Because the Government and the do gooders intervene in the family structure. I knew that a good butt whipping when I was young taught me how to respect my parents and others. But now of days children have laws to protect their rights and tell their parents to go to Hell. Why, they can even divorce their parants. What is happening is that too, too much government intervention. So you will have to wear your under wear on the out side of your pants so that we can see that you are wearing clean under wear ever day. This government has to do as we say, not what they want to do. America this is not what our fore fathers had in mind. As for the yuppies whom think they are better then anyone else, then I will tell you to move to a communistic country. This is the land of the free and of the brave. History always repeats it self over and over again. We are in the beginning of a Depression. This I tell you is true! The pettiness of not being able to do what you want is not freedom. Yes I am a Smoker and I think it is Bull. People have been doing this smoking for years and some have even survived past 100 years old. I will bet soon there will be a revolution whereby the country will take its indepenance back again. So Yes Butt out of the smokers business and stop over taxing them. Most of the bars, clubs, restraints are closing because the smoking band. Heavy taxes and deals with the tobacco companies from our government are going for other things through apporeations. The biggest is these pork barrels. The thing I want to say is tell the people whom are representing us to stop stealing our taxes. Start looking into your tax base and you will see all the greed that is taking place. Close done the government programs of children and youth service to only taking care of real abuse of the children. Think Democracy of the people, by the people and for the people. Have a nice Day!!!!!!!!!

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    • August 14, 2009 by Larra Storey

      You could not have said it more beautifully, Great job, I agree with everything you said and it sounds like you even have done your research too and thats awesome. Too bad we can't clone you!

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    • December 10, 2010 by wanda

      preach it buddy, what you are saying is sooooooo True. Amen

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    • February 7, 2011 by Paul

      Well my friend i must agree with all of your statement, not because i am lack in ablity to formalate my own thoughts, but because you are right in your thinking. It is time for us to take back the rights of Americans, and let the Government know that enough is enough, and we are feed up with it. Why dont they go after alcohol and real drug. Oh, sorry they are now getting to the point where they are telling us what we can or cant eat, and demanding that food suppliers start cutting this and that. Come on people wake up before its too late. Today smokers rights, tomorrow who knows what rights we lose. Thank You

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    • September 2, 2011 by John

      You had me until the rediculous and ignorant comparison to banning Gays.

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    • October 21, 2011 by Su

      REALLY? You really just said that gay people WANT to be gay and they should be taxed?

      Wow.

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  • March 31, 2009 by michael

    I thought this was America.we are supposed to be a free country. As more and more things I hear about the Gov putting restrictions on things the less I feel about where I'm living. Yes I do think the Gov should butt out. Its a lil insane to tell some one they're evicted for smoking a cigarette in their own enclosed home. And I'm sorry.all you people thinking second hand smoke is gonna kill you??? Get over it. You breath far worse when walking down the side walk breathing car exhuast fumes or sitting infront of your camp fires. This is just another thing for the "NAGGERS" to NAG about. Butt out and leave America alone. Thank you.

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    • March 22, 2011 by ani

      DEFINITELY NOT DEFINITELY NOT

      What goes on behind closed doors is nobody else's business even in apartments, hotels and motels. BUTT OUT. When you pay for accommodations you expect to be able to do what you want within reason. Oh, it's OK to smoke pot and other dangerous drugs, right? WRONG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      What is wrong with society? don't they have more important subjects to work on. like taxes. education, starving seniors,etc? GET A LIFE................

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      • August 19, 2011 by Civil Freedoms

        WHAT THE HECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DID NOT WAKE UP IN CHINA NOR RUSSIA!!! DO THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NATIVE AMERICANS AND COLONIALIST MADE A LIVING ON. TOBACCO!!! WHAT BECAME THE WAY OF LIFE AND LIVING IS NOW BEING DESTROYED. WHO EVER IS BEHIND TAKING THIS FREEDOM AWAY SHOULD GO LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY FOR A YEAR AND SEE WHICH ONE HE OR SHE LIKES BEST. (AMERICA OR THE OTHER PLACE) BY THE WAY WHAT EVER THIRD WORLD COUNTRY THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR LAWS TOO. GET A LIFE I AM SURE THAT ON YOUR ANCESTORS SMOKED AND FOUGHT THAT FREEDOM TOO.

  • March 31, 2009 by maxwood

    No one above has mentioned these possibilities so here it goes: 1. Vaporizer. Most brands run $200 - $600 but a big savings in the long run compared to $2000 a year for a pack-a-day smoker in a high tax state. Eliminates carbon monoxide and all smoke including side-stream smoke (SSS, which is worse than second-hand smoke SHS). Heats the tobacco to about 400 degrees Fahrenheit, instead of temperatures over 1000 degrees Fahrenheit reached in conventional cigarettes. 2. E-cigarette. Ignore Senator Lautenberg. There's no way this mini-vaporizer isn't safer than cigarettes. It vaporizes pure nicotine and/or other flavors from a cartridge in the mouthpiece by means of a heating element which runs on rechargeable batteries. Various brands start around $60. 3. Screened single-toke utensil (long-stemmed one-hitter). This miniature smoking method (1/4"-diameter. crater) permits 25-mg. servings instead of 700-mg. as in a typical cigarette, no side-stream smoke.

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Europe Deems 2014 the Year Against Food Waste

Should we take waste stats more seriously?

Coverages For Teachers


From vandalism protection for your car parked in the school parking lot to dealing with theft of school materials from your car, Liberty Mutual offers special coverages for teachers – all at no additional cost.

Dnt txt & drv

It’s a deadly activity teens engage in daily. Check out these short films on the dangers of texting and driving.

Dnt txt & drv

A Working Retirement

After a lifetime of hard work, a writer’s father finds a new calling—as a volunteer firefighter—in his golden years.

TED Talk: Gary Lauder

The venture capitalist’s brilliant idea for reducing traffic accidents: a new sign.

TED Talk: Gary Lauder

Is Yoga Bad for You?

A new debate has taken hold over yoga’s health benefits, or lack thereof.




About Liberty Mutual

Liberty Mutual is a provider of auto, home, and life insurance for consumers, as well as risk and disability products and services for businesses. Because responsibility is integral to who we are, we also support a range of community service programs around issues like fire safety and responsible sports. Through the Liberty Mutual Foundation, we make grants to organizations that show low-income students a path to lifelong success through education, and agencies that provide immediate basic health and human services to the needy. To learn more about us, visit us at LibertyMutualGroup.com

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